Post by Keith Famie on Dec 24, 2008 2:20:46 GMT -5
"Rob M" (10:46:20 PM): whatup bro
Auto Response from Grkrapper2 (10:46:20 PM): Go bears!!! Beat the pack! Then I win $$$!
Grkrapper2 (10:59:32 PM): yo
"Rob M" (10:59:40 PM): whatup kid
Grkrapper2 (11:00:18 PM): going good
"Rob M" (11:00:23 PM): sweet
Grkrapper2 (11:00:27 PM): my bears won in OT!
"Rob M" (11:00:31 PM): congrats!
"Rob M" (11:00:36 PM): they actually had the game on here
Grkrapper2 (11:00:49 PM): nice, yeah it was nationally telivise on monday night
"Rob M" (11:01:05 PM): yea but Im in Mexico lol
Grkrapper2 (11:01:24 PM): oh wow nice
"Rob M" (11:01:29 PM): thanx lol
Grkrapper2 (11:02:51 PM): so vote wise what you think
Grkrapper2 (11:03:06 PM): i got a pm from tina that mentioned rudy since he hasnt been around to do many challanges
"Rob M" (11:03:15 PM): Id say either Gary or Rudy
Grkrapper2 (11:03:41 PM): right now id say gary hes more of a threat but then again rudy isnt much of use
"Rob M" (11:04:13 PM): yea I agree lets take Gary out while we still can
"Rob M" (11:04:18 PM): we can boot Rudy next round
"Rob M" (11:04:26 PM): hes less of a threat to us
Grkrapper2 (11:04:48 PM): let me ask kathy as to what she thinks
Grkrapper2 (11:04:57 PM): i really wanted robb gone this round but unfortnelty he won immunity
"Rob M" (11:05:09 PM): damn lol
Grkrapper2 (11:08:27 PM): im thinking as long as me you or tina dont get voted off this round we have it in the bag
Grkrapper2 (11:08:39 PM): cause we will at least have half the votes next round
"Rob M" (11:08:55 PM): yes that is the key
"Rob M" (11:09:03 PM): once we have the votes we are a lock
"Rob M" (11:09:16 PM): me u and Tina can run the table after this
Grkrapper2 (11:09:23 PM): so if they want to take out rudy thats fine with me, i agree gary is better but if rudy goes wont hurt us too much
"Rob M" (11:09:48 PM): it wont but I have a feeling Tina would rather vote for Gary so maybe we should just make her happy this time
"Rob M" (11:10:06 PM): it doesnt matter to me either way
Grkrapper2 (11:10:15 PM): well tina sent me a pm saying she was thinking rudy cause he hasnt been around to do challanges and missed the last 2
"Rob M" (11:10:25 PM): oh ok its up to u guys then
"Rob M" (11:10:39 PM): I just figured Gary was the bigger threat but Im down for whateva
Grkrapper2 (11:11:08 PM): im gonna see what kathy wants to do. dont really want to go against her and have her get mad and then switch and be on robb and garys side and bring like rudy along
"Rob M" (11:11:20 PM): true dat
Grkrapper2 (11:14:38 PM): kathy is in the middle between gary and rudy
Grkrapper2 (11:14:44 PM): which is good cause it aint one of us
"Rob M" (11:14:55 PM): true this works out well for us
Grkrapper2 (11:14:57 PM): we just need one more to lock up ths round
"Rob M" (11:15:04 PM): yup we'll be fine
"Rob M" (11:15:07 PM): brb
Grkrapper2 (11:15:10 PM): aight
"Rob M" (11:18:58 PM): back
Grkrapper2 (11:19:05 PM): aight cool
Grkrapper2 (11:19:18 PM): so kathy says she dosnt really want to make the choice and wants to go with whatever majority is going
"Rob M" (11:19:27 PM): yea thats what she told me
"Rob M" (11:24:37 PM): the thing is we may need Rudy's vote this round
"Rob M" (11:24:42 PM): cuz Kathy wont commit
"Rob M" (11:24:53 PM): we need a 4th
Grkrapper2 (11:25:29 PM): yeah that is true, and we could try and sway gary and robb to vote rudy since that would be the only way to save rudy so we would be safe either way.
"Rob M" (11:25:52 PM): yea unless the 4 of them team up and pick us off the next 3 rounds
"Rob M" (11:25:58 PM): thats the only thing that scares me
Grkrapper2 (11:26:46 PM): thats why we tell gary that he needs to vote rudy to save himself, i am a bit afraid of that too but kathy isnt really a backstabber \
"Rob M" (11:27:20 PM): ok good I just hope Kathy doesnt tell Gary we were considering voting for him
"Rob M" (11:27:35 PM): as long as she doesnt do that Gary should be willing to vote for Rudy
Grkrapper2 (11:28:15 PM): man i have a feeling gary is gonna be pissed when if he gets voted off lol
"Rob M" (11:28:39 PM): lol probably
"Rob M" (11:28:43 PM): he put alot of time into this game
Grkrapper2 (11:29:29 PM): yeah thats why i feel bad voting him off instead of rudy
Grkrapper2 (11:29:44 PM): but eh oh well he would have voted us off if we hadnt turned the tables
"Rob M" (11:29:48 PM): me too but we also have to what gets us to the end of the game
"Rob M" (11:29:59 PM): to do*
"Rob M" (11:30:15 PM): he probly wouldve voted us if Eliza stayed
Grkrapper2 (11:32:43 PM): dude man after amber was voted off, i tried going to gary to give us a life line but he wouldnt budge and said it was moslty tribe verse tribe and that he was going to stick with his original tribe so he had his chance pretty much
"Rob M" (11:32:58 PM): yea then wtf?
"Rob M" (11:33:07 PM): we might as well vote him out before he becomes immune
"Rob M" (11:33:14 PM): hes the biggest threat to win the game
Grkrapper2 (11:33:22 PM): yeah and thats exaclty why i went to rudy and kathy
"Rob M" (11:33:30 PM): I dont blame you
"Rob M" (11:34:43 PM): whatever u did worked lol
Grkrapper2 (11:34:52 PM): lol this is true
"Rob M" (11:34:56 PM): haha
Grkrapper2 (11:34:57 PM): and gary just imed me lol
"Rob M" (11:35:03 PM): oh what'd he say?
Grkrapper2 (11:35:11 PM): wait no he didnt, its an old IM
"Rob M" (11:35:18 PM): oh lol
Grkrapper2 (11:35:44 PM): man i really wanted to vote off stupid robb, he only talks to me when he wants to know who i am voting for freakin a
"Rob M" (11:35:53 PM): LOL thats annoying
"Rob M" (11:36:04 PM): Kathy wont tell me anything
"Rob M" (11:36:09 PM): just that she wants to go with the majority
"Rob M" (11:36:12 PM): its annoying
Grkrapper2 (11:36:27 PM): ugh, she said she is going to talk to rudy first
"Rob M" (11:36:34 PM): Esoshnick (12:32:49 AM): Id rather keep Rudy if its possible only cuz I believe Gary is the biggest threat out there to win the entire game
Esoshnick (12:33:02 AM): but I will go along with the majority
velva8490 (12:34:42 AM): i would rather go with the majority too
"Rob M" (11:36:54 PM): hopefully Rudy convinced her to vote Gary
"Rob M" (11:36:57 PM): convinces*
Grkrapper2 (11:37:35 PM): i am worried that rudy will vote tina for mentioning his name cause tina pmed kathy saying it shoudl be rudy
"Rob M" (11:37:43 PM): oh no
"Rob M" (11:37:52 PM): that would suck for us if tina goes
"Rob M" (11:37:56 PM): we'd be next
Grkrapper2 (11:38:08 PM): yeah that is true cause they woudl be a final 4
"Rob M" (11:38:14 PM): exactly
"Rob M" (11:38:46 PM): velva8490 (12:37:04 AM): yeah. me too. i don't want to stand out. so you think the majority is going to go with gary?
Esoshnick (12:37:14 AM): thats what it sounds like to me
"Rob M" (11:38:52 PM): hopefully she'll just vote Gary
"Rob M" (11:39:41 PM): Esoshnick (12:37:24 AM): he is the biggest threat in the game isnt he?
velva8490 (12:38:05 AM): well he's a threat in challenges & socially
Esoshnick (12:38:12 AM): yea hes a double threat
Esoshnick (12:38:20 AM): most people are only good at 1 of the 2
Grkrapper2 (11:41:07 PM): nice good use of pitching the threat card
"Rob M" (11:41:18 PM): LOL thanx bro
"Rob M" (11:41:26 PM): Im tryin my best to sell her on this
"Rob M" (11:41:43 PM): velva8490 (12:39:08 AM): yeah that's true.
Esoshnick (12:39:31 AM): if he makes the finals he just seems unbeatable
Esoshnick (12:39:42 AM): I dont see how anyone can say they outplayed him at any aspect of the game
Grkrapper2 (11:42:14 PM): oh and gary voted kathy last round fyi
"Rob M" (11:42:25 PM): oh tell her that then
"Rob M" (11:43:33 PM): Esoshnick (12:41:29 AM): and I think he voted u the round Eliza was voted out
Esoshnick (12:41:48 AM): cuz he wanted to be loyal to his original allies
Esoshnick (12:41:53 AM): so the jury probly loves him
velva8490 (12:41:56 AM): yeah i thought i got that vote from him
Esoshnick (12:42:09 AM): Im pretty sure it came from him cuz he said he couldnt vote for Eliza
Grkrapper2 (11:49:05 PM): but hey man im gonna head to bed, let me know what you can get from her
"Rob M" (11:49:15 PM): aight bro
"Rob M" (11:49:21 PM): have a good one
Grkrapper2 (11:50:22 PM): you too man, sedn me a pm on the board if u find out anything
Grkrapper2 (11:50:23 PM): lata
"Rob M" (11:50:32 PM): u got it
"Rob M" (11:50:34 PM): later
Grkrapper2 (11:50:42 PM): aight cool thankx lata
"Rob M" (9:45:01 PM): that TC sucked
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Grkrapper2 (12:17:22 AM): dude what happened man
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"Rob M" (12:17:49 AM): ugh
"Rob M" (12:17:53 AM): I voted Rudy
Grkrapper2 (12:17:57 AM): yeah thougth so
"Rob M" (12:17:58 AM): cuz I knew we didnt have the votes
Grkrapper2 (12:18:08 AM): why did freaking rudy and kathy screw us
"Rob M" (12:18:13 AM): Kathy Rudy Robb and Gary obviously have a final 4
"Rob M" (12:18:20 AM): that they didnt tell us about
"Rob M" (12:18:31 AM): we need to get at least 1 of them to flip somehow
"Rob M" (12:18:36 AM): or we are sitting ducks
"Rob M" (12:18:50 AM): promise them final 2 or do whatever it takes
Grkrapper2 (12:19:02 AM): man i promised them final 3 already him and kathy
"Rob M" (12:19:12 AM): with Gary or Rudy?
Grkrapper2 (12:19:22 AM): with rudy and kathy
Grkrapper2 (12:19:39 AM): either rudy kathy gary or robb, one of them aint making the final 3, but they will with us
"Rob M" (12:19:45 AM): exactly
Grkrapper2 (12:19:46 AM): we just have to figure out which one
"Rob M" (12:19:51 AM): we need to figure out who is their outsider
"Rob M" (12:19:55 AM): I think its Kathy
"Rob M" (12:19:59 AM): cuz Eliza targetted her
"Rob M" (12:20:02 AM): and Gary has voted her
"Rob M" (12:20:06 AM): in the past
"Rob M" (12:20:12 AM): but I dunno why she was so loyal to Gary
"Rob M" (12:20:17 AM): they must have a deal
Grkrapper2 (12:20:30 AM): somethin must have gotten her to change her mind and vote tina
"Rob M" (12:20:35 AM): yup
"Rob M" (12:20:40 AM): I dunno what changed
Grkrapper2 (12:20:45 AM): they did originally have a final 4 supposedly
"Rob M" (12:20:52 AM): this sux
"Rob M" (12:21:03 AM): Kathy was so wishy washy last night
"Rob M" (12:21:07 AM): saying she didnt wanna vote anyone
"Rob M" (12:21:10 AM): she likes everybody
"Rob M" (12:21:12 AM): blah blah blah
Grkrapper2 (12:21:21 AM): yeah it was almost like she knew she was voting tina the whole time
"Rob M" (12:21:27 AM): exactly
"Rob M" (12:21:36 AM): and I knew Gary was gonna vote one of us
Grkrapper2 (12:21:48 AM): yeah he had pmed me he was voting tina
"Rob M" (12:21:48 AM): then he PMed me today saying he was voting tina
"Rob M" (12:21:53 AM): so I knew he locked up the 4 votes
"Rob M" (12:21:59 AM): or he wouldnt risk it
Grkrapper2 (12:22:09 AM): i will have to talk to kathy and see what is up
Grkrapper2 (12:22:23 AM): one of them will break, cause all 4 of them cant make the final 3
"Rob M" (12:22:24 AM): we need to convince Kathy Gary or Robb to flip on Rudy I think
"Rob M" (12:22:31 AM): exactly
Grkrapper2 (12:22:38 AM): i almost want to say its robb that is on the outs but he dont talk to anyone
"Rob M" (12:22:49 AM): we have to convince them that the plan is for the other allies to take Rudy to the end cuz hes so easy to beat
"Rob M" (12:22:54 AM): and we can help them vote out Rudy
"Rob M" (12:23:10 AM): yea I think Robb's on the outs too but hes ignoring my IMs the last 2 days
"Rob M" (12:23:15 AM): so I have no way of getting to him
Grkrapper2 (12:24:02 AM): for some reason i think that they have this type of deal that is well we will go to the final 4 and gary and robb will vote together and rudy and kathy will vote together and then have the tiebreaker decide
Grkrapper2 (12:24:07 AM): that would be so lame if they did taht
Grkrapper2 (12:24:17 AM): why risk a tiebreaker when you have an automatic final 3
"Rob M" (12:24:33 AM): exactly
"Rob M" (12:24:42 AM): I am thinking thats their deal too
"Rob M" (12:25:05 AM): we need to convince Robb and Gary that Rudy must go
Grkrapper2 (12:25:10 AM): most likely i think they will target me next between you and I
"Rob M" (12:25:14 AM): or everyone will want him in the finals
Grkrapper2 (12:25:29 AM): maybe thats why they dont want to get rid of him
"Rob M" (12:25:29 AM): who knows what their plan is?
"Rob M" (12:25:41 AM): but it hurts Robb and Gary
"Rob M" (12:25:45 AM): if Kathy takes Rudy to the end
"Rob M" (12:25:49 AM): then they lose
Grkrapper2 (12:25:54 AM): maybe kathy should be the one to go cause she will be tought to beat
Grkrapper2 (12:26:02 AM): freakin a, kathy really screwed us on this one
"Rob M" (12:26:06 AM): yea she is the biggest threat other than Gary
"Rob M" (12:26:14 AM): yea I knew she was going to
"Rob M" (12:26:19 AM): the way she was talking
"Rob M" (12:26:23 AM): thats why I didnt vote Gary
Grkrapper2 (12:26:27 AM): its gonna be tough winning immunity cause robb gary and kathy are all good at those chalalgnes
"Rob M" (12:26:31 AM): I figured our only hope was a self vote from Rudy
"Rob M" (12:26:51 AM): yea immunity doesnt help us anyway
"Rob M" (12:26:56 AM): we need to outstrategize them
Grkrapper2 (12:26:59 AM): this is true
"Rob M" (12:27:02 AM): even if one of us wins IC the other goes
Grkrapper2 (12:27:15 AM): which is what sucks
"Rob M" (12:27:20 AM): very much so
"Rob M" (12:27:29 AM): Im hoping we can convince someone to go to the final 3 with us
"Rob M" (12:27:37 AM): and maybe we can each offer the person final 2 deals
"Rob M" (12:27:42 AM): and act like we arent close
Grkrapper2 (12:27:53 AM): i doubt it will be gary, it would have to be like kathy or rudy unfortunetly
"Rob M" (12:27:59 AM): yup
"Rob M" (12:28:07 AM): and Kathy is so noncommital
Grkrapper2 (12:28:10 AM): well you voting rudy may have helped us out
"Rob M" (12:28:15 AM): with gary
"Rob M" (12:28:17 AM): right?
Grkrapper2 (12:28:23 AM): cause voting differnt already kinda shows we arent as close
"Rob M" (12:28:28 AM): exactly
"Rob M" (12:28:44 AM): but it could also make Rudy mad at me
"Rob M" (12:28:53 AM): or it could make him think youd take him to the end
"Rob M" (12:28:55 AM): if we make final 3
Grkrapper2 (12:29:39 AM): maybe they voted out tina cause tina wanted rudy out and kathy got mad
Grkrapper2 (12:29:51 AM): cause of that pm she sent her
"Rob M" (12:29:52 AM): I dont get why Tina wanted Rudy out
"Rob M" (12:29:55 AM): it made no sense
Grkrapper2 (12:30:09 AM): cause he wasnt doing anything and wasnt being too active
"Rob M" (12:30:10 AM): we shouldve just planned to vote Gary from the getgo
"Rob M" (12:30:17 AM): yea but we needed to take out a threat
"Rob M" (12:30:21 AM): now were screwed
"Rob M" (12:30:40 AM): Rudy is active enough to vote when he needs to apparently
Grkrapper2 (12:31:14 AM): yeah how convienient
"Rob M" (12:31:22 AM): yup
Grkrapper2 (12:31:26 AM): kathy never even got back to me on what she was going to do
"Rob M" (12:31:32 AM): me neither
"Rob M" (12:31:35 AM): what a bitch
"Rob M" (12:31:42 AM): at least Gary told us
"Rob M" (12:31:46 AM): I think hes our best hope
"Rob M" (12:32:01 AM): maybe he is afraid of Kathy and Rudy
Grkrapper2 (12:32:09 AM): i dont know man, i think he has like deals with each person in that final 4
"Rob M" (12:32:30 AM): it seems that way but maybe we can convince him Kathy and Rudy will never vote eachother somehow
Grkrapper2 (12:34:09 AM): ugh its not looking good for us at all
Grkrapper2 (12:34:21 AM): i will have to talk to gary and see whats on his mind
"Rob M" (12:34:30 AM): hes online now
"Rob M" (12:34:34 AM): I just IMed him
Grkrapper2 (12:34:36 AM): yeah i just sent him an im
"Rob M" (12:34:41 AM): Im gonna try to work him over if possible
"Rob M" (12:36:02 AM): I doubt he'll help us
Grkrapper2 (12:36:28 AM): we may have to rely on kathy or rudy which sucks but ill have to see ifi see them online
"Rob M" (12:36:32 AM): he sounds like hes real proud of himself lol
"Rob M" (12:36:39 AM): yea we may have to
"Rob M" (12:36:48 AM): lemme know if either of them commit to voting Gary or Robb
"Rob M" (12:37:49 AM): I got a new plan
Grkrapper2 (12:37:54 AM): what u got man
"Rob M" (12:38:01 AM): Im telling Gary that u guys lied to me about the vote
"Rob M" (12:38:05 AM): so he thinks we arent close
Grkrapper2 (12:38:17 AM): lol thats what i told him in a way
"Rob M" (12:38:21 AM): Im telling him I was told to vote Rudy and now Im screwed
"Rob M" (12:38:25 AM): LOL I hope it works
"Rob M" (12:38:33 AM): he asked me that so he expected it I guess
Grkrapper2 (12:38:36 AM): i told him that i heard that you tina rudy and kathy were all voting gary so i did as well
"Rob M" (12:38:53 AM): RnnrBrian (1:37:23 AM): Did the others all tell you that Rudy was going? 'cause Keith had told me via PM that I was the one going.
Esoshnick (1:37:37 AM): I was told it was supposed to be Rudy
Esoshnick (1:37:42 AM): I cant believe everyone fooled me
Grkrapper2 (12:40:40 AM): Gary" (12:39:15 AM): That sucks, I thought they would at least tell you. I was nervous looking at the results because, ya know, I was being told two different things so I thought there would be a strong chance that I was going.
Grkrapper2 (12:40:19 AM): thats what i thought was going on, i dont know who was telling rob that rudy was the vote cause i kept hearing it was you which is why i told you, i think kathy was telling us different things'
"Rob M" (12:41:08 AM): LMAO good thinking
"Rob M" (12:41:12 AM): maybe he'd vote Kathy
Grkrapper2 (12:42:17 AM): Grkrapper2 (12:42:06 AM): and who the heck knows what rudy is doing, kathy said that rudy was going to vote you but would get back to me on that but never did. rudy hasnt done any of the last few challanges and i havent talked to him since last week lol i think kathy is the only one that talks to him
Grkrapper2 (12:42:29 AM): im gonna try pushing it to kathy or even rudy
"Rob M" (12:42:35 AM): good idea
Grkrapper2 (12:42:44 AM): i think we go for rudy, he does have that chance of self voting
Grkrapper2 (12:42:54 AM): or not putting a confessional up
"Rob M" (12:43:02 AM): Im telling him that hes the only one in the game who told me who he was voting for so I wanna take him to the finals if I can
"Rob M" (12:43:16 AM): yea Rudy is the safest bet
Grkrapper2 (12:43:47 AM): if we can force it a tie on a technicallity that would be great lol
"Rob M" (12:43:54 AM): it would! LOL
Grkrapper2 (12:48:42 AM): have u gotten any pms from rudy recently
"Rob M" (12:49:20 AM): none have u?
Grkrapper2 (12:49:52 AM): there lies the problem, i have not received anything but: Gary" (12:44:45 AM): I've communicated with him through PMs...and through his texts on phones, I guess.
Grkrapper2 (12:49:58 AM): apparently he has with gary
"Rob M" (12:50:18 AM): yes I knew that was coming once Gary said he voted Tina
"Rob M" (12:50:25 AM): he has obviously communicated with Rudy
"Rob M" (12:50:29 AM): or he wouldnt have done that
Grkrapper2 (12:50:35 AM): this is true
"Rob M" (12:50:44 AM): so thats a huge problem
"Rob M" (12:50:49 AM): maybe we need to target Kathy?
Grkrapper2 (12:51:11 AM): not if i tell gary that rudy said he was in a final 4 with kathy and robb
Grkrapper2 (12:51:15 AM): i have a plan hold up
"Rob M" (12:51:18 AM): oh good point
"Rob M" (12:51:20 AM): 'k
Grkrapper2 (12:53:17 AM): this is from my confessionals that i had a convo from rudy
Grkrapper2 (12:53:20 AM): Rudy" (1:44:31 PM): You see, I thought I had a pretty tightalliance wtih Robb, Kathy and Gary, not so sure now
"Rob M" (12:53:31 AM): oh good
"Rob M" (12:53:35 AM): what did Gary say?
Grkrapper2 (12:53:48 AM): i havent showed him yet im doing that now
"Rob M" (12:53:55 AM): nice
"Rob M" (12:56:30 AM): Esoshnick (1:53:01 AM): well if theres anyway my vote can help u get to the finals just lemme know cuz Im pretty much flying solo at this point
Esoshnick (1:54:42 AM): at this point Im just gonna keep voting for whoever doesnt talk to me unless I hear otherwise
RnnrBrian (1:55:43 AM): gracias. Really though, I WILL let you know what will be going down at each TC, at least on who I'm planning on voting. I won't be able to speak for the others, but I'll always send you a PM. Seriously, i will.
Esoshnick (1:56:10 AM): thanx I really appreciate it Im glad someone will keep me in the loop around here
"Rob M" (12:57:14 AM): hopefully he doesnt see us as a pair and we can vote out Kathy or Rudy somehow
Grkrapper2 (12:58:20 AM): Gary" (12:57:52 AM): hmm. Well, honestly, I do have an alliance with them, and I'm planning on sticking with them.
"Gary" (12:58:06 AM): I'm sorry, but I really feel like it's the best way I can get to the finals.
"Rob M" (12:58:34 AM): I figured as much
"Rob M" (12:58:38 AM): hes too loyal
"Rob M" (12:58:41 AM): we need someone else
"Rob M" (12:58:58 AM): ask him why he voted for Kathy then?
"Rob M" (12:59:02 AM): if hes so loyal to her
Grkrapper2 (12:59:23 AM): prolly just to throw a vote away, cause kathy knew about it and didnt phase her at all
Grkrapper2 (1:00:05 AM): Grkrapper2 (12:58:52 AM): ahh but 4 people cant make the final 2, someones is going to get screwed
Grkrapper2 (1:00:08 AM): thats what i told him
Grkrapper2 (1:00:26 AM): freakin rudy was playing us the whole time
"Rob M" (1:00:28 AM): true dat
"Rob M" (1:00:42 AM): but I still think Gary and Robb want Kathy gone
"Rob M" (1:00:48 AM): cuz of what Eliza did after she lost
"Rob M" (1:00:56 AM): she went out of her way to setup Kathy
"Rob M" (1:01:03 AM): and tell me Kathy told her I was voting her
"Rob M" (1:01:07 AM): eventhough it was really Gary
"Rob M" (1:01:21 AM): who told Eliza I was voting her
"Rob M" (1:01:37 AM): and remind Gary how Kathy backstabbed Eliza
"Rob M" (1:01:40 AM): and shed do it to him
"Rob M" (1:01:46 AM): in a heartbeat
"Rob M" (1:01:57 AM): tell him Kathy wont risk a tie in the final 4
Grkrapper2 (1:02:24 AM): that would be stupid is someone wanted a tie in the final 4
"Rob M" (1:02:31 AM): yea that is so lame
"Rob M" (1:02:35 AM): nobody ever keeps those
"Rob M" (1:02:38 AM): tell him that
Grkrapper2 (1:03:01 AM): "Gary" (1:02:31 AM): lol, no crap! I just have to hope it isn't me. But really, for now I think I'm committed to sticking with them. And that's probably a more honest answer than you'll get from the other 3, ya know?
Grkrapper2 (1:03:17 AM): gary is too loyal, we need to work on kathy or rudy unfortunetly
"Rob M" (1:03:41 AM): yea he pisses me off lol
"Rob M" (1:03:48 AM): Kathy and Rudy are our only hope
"Rob M" (1:03:49 AM): this sux
"Rob M" (1:04:01 AM): unless we can get to Robb somehow
Grkrapper2 (1:04:08 AM): Grkrapper2 (1:03:53 AM): i just hope your right man, i would hate to be voted off 6th or 5th and then you get screwed in the final 4 or 3
Grkrapper2 (1:04:14 AM): thats what i told gary
"Rob M" (1:05:18 AM): yea youve done all u can do with him
"Rob M" (1:05:25 AM): we need to talk to Robb Rudy and Kathy
"Rob M" (1:05:32 AM): and find a chink in the armor
Grkrapper2 (1:05:44 AM): they all cant feel safe cause if they do, someoens i getting played like a fiddle
"Rob M" (1:06:10 AM): I dont think Robb or Rudy feel as safe
"Rob M" (1:06:18 AM): I think Gary and Kathy feel very safe right now
Grkrapper2 (1:06:33 AM): yeah cause gary is controlling robb and kathy is controlling rudy
"Rob M" (1:06:39 AM): exatly LOL
"Rob M" (1:06:50 AM): and they were both so unwilling to budge at all
"Rob M" (1:07:22 AM): kathy never even considered voting Rudy or Gary
"Rob M" (1:07:33 AM): she must feel very safe with them
Grkrapper2 (1:07:55 AM): god i really hope we dont have to rely on robb lol he dont talk to anyone
"Rob M" (1:08:04 AM): I truly think hes our only hope
"Rob M" (1:08:08 AM): he told me he was on the outs
"Rob M" (1:08:15 AM): last round
"Rob M" (1:08:34 AM): the problem is he hasnt beena round to talk to at all
Grkrapper2 (1:08:48 AM): man well we have at least 3 days to work it cause the challanges is 48 hours and starts tomorrow
"Rob M" (1:09:13 AM): true lets hope he shows up over the next 3 days lol
Grkrapper2 (1:09:40 AM): if all 4 of them stick together and vote each of us out, i am goign to give the biggest i told you so and tool to the ones that get screwed over
"Rob M" (1:09:55 AM): LOL
Grkrapper2 (1:10:06 AM): i will laugh in their face
"Rob M" (1:10:08 AM): I dont blame ya
Grkrapper2 (1:10:24 AM): i be like you dumb sob. didnt we just tell u that shit was going to happen
"Rob M" (1:10:43 AM): hahaha
"Rob M" (1:10:52 AM): Im hoping it doesnt come to that tho
"Rob M" (1:10:56 AM): and we convince Robb or Rudy
Grkrapper2 (1:10:59 AM): yeah that is true
"Rob M" (1:11:08 AM): but it doesnt look good right now
Grkrapper2 (1:11:35 AM): i think if we lay low the next day or two they will think we gave up
Grkrapper2 (1:11:43 AM): like during xmas eve and xmas
"Rob M" (1:11:45 AM): probably
Grkrapper2 (1:11:53 AM): and then come friday we bring it out
"Rob M" (1:11:57 AM): Im hoping Rudy forgets to vote
Grkrapper2 (1:12:08 AM): they will prolly gun for me next since i voted gary so im ready to give it my all
"Rob M" (1:12:16 AM): yea that's a good idea unless we see Robb or Rudy on sooner
"Rob M" (1:12:20 AM): we need to talk to those 2
"Rob M" (1:12:32 AM): oh man I hope they dont vote u next
"Rob M" (1:12:34 AM): that will blow
Grkrapper2 (1:12:44 AM): althought rudy forgetting to vote wont do us too good cause we would still be screwed at final 5
Grkrapper2 (1:13:03 AM): we need a solid ally more then the technicallity
"Rob M" (1:14:29 AM): youre right about that
"Rob M" (1:14:33 AM): we need to bring Robb in
"Rob M" (1:14:40 AM): he told me he felt he was next to go
Grkrapper2 (1:14:56 AM): really? when was this?
Grkrapper2 (1:15:09 AM): we could use that everyone thinks he is a challange threat to our advantage
"Rob M" (1:15:24 AM): it was a few days ago
"Rob M" (1:15:36 AM): when we had to give the points out
"Rob M" (1:15:41 AM): last round
Grkrapper2 (1:15:56 AM): alright we will see what we can do, and im gonna try and get an explanation out of rudy and kathy
"Rob M" (1:16:30 AM): it was after IC #11
"Rob M" (1:16:38 AM): Robb told me he thought he would be next to go
"Rob M" (1:16:41 AM): and he needed immunity
Grkrapper2 (1:16:44 AM): well he is our best bet so far then
"Rob M" (1:16:51 AM): I think so at this point
"Rob M" (1:16:55 AM): we just gotta find him online
Grkrapper2 (1:17:20 AM): he will show up, he always does the challanges
"Rob M" (1:17:27 AM): yup
Grkrapper2 (1:17:48 AM): but hey man im gonna head off to bed so ill catch ya later
"Rob M" (1:18:18 AM): alright have a goodnight bro
Grkrapper2 (1:18:25 AM): you too man
Grkrapper2 (1:18:26 AM): lata
wtf mate, freakin kathy and rudy. Those tool bags. Ugh i hate to say that robb may hold mine and robs fate but nonetheless, tina, you will be avenged!!!!
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Grkrapper2 (10:59:32 PM): yo
"Rob M" (10:59:40 PM): whatup kid
Grkrapper2 (11:00:18 PM): going good
"Rob M" (11:00:23 PM): sweet
Grkrapper2 (11:00:27 PM): my bears won in OT!
"Rob M" (11:00:31 PM): congrats!
"Rob M" (11:00:36 PM): they actually had the game on here
Grkrapper2 (11:00:49 PM): nice, yeah it was nationally telivise on monday night
"Rob M" (11:01:05 PM): yea but Im in Mexico lol
Grkrapper2 (11:01:24 PM): oh wow nice
"Rob M" (11:01:29 PM): thanx lol
Grkrapper2 (11:02:51 PM): so vote wise what you think
Grkrapper2 (11:03:06 PM): i got a pm from tina that mentioned rudy since he hasnt been around to do many challanges
"Rob M" (11:03:15 PM): Id say either Gary or Rudy
Grkrapper2 (11:03:41 PM): right now id say gary hes more of a threat but then again rudy isnt much of use
"Rob M" (11:04:13 PM): yea I agree lets take Gary out while we still can
"Rob M" (11:04:18 PM): we can boot Rudy next round
"Rob M" (11:04:26 PM): hes less of a threat to us
Grkrapper2 (11:04:48 PM): let me ask kathy as to what she thinks
Grkrapper2 (11:04:57 PM): i really wanted robb gone this round but unfortnelty he won immunity
"Rob M" (11:05:09 PM): damn lol
Grkrapper2 (11:08:27 PM): im thinking as long as me you or tina dont get voted off this round we have it in the bag
Grkrapper2 (11:08:39 PM): cause we will at least have half the votes next round
"Rob M" (11:08:55 PM): yes that is the key
"Rob M" (11:09:03 PM): once we have the votes we are a lock
"Rob M" (11:09:16 PM): me u and Tina can run the table after this
Grkrapper2 (11:09:23 PM): so if they want to take out rudy thats fine with me, i agree gary is better but if rudy goes wont hurt us too much
"Rob M" (11:09:48 PM): it wont but I have a feeling Tina would rather vote for Gary so maybe we should just make her happy this time
"Rob M" (11:10:06 PM): it doesnt matter to me either way
Grkrapper2 (11:10:15 PM): well tina sent me a pm saying she was thinking rudy cause he hasnt been around to do challanges and missed the last 2
"Rob M" (11:10:25 PM): oh ok its up to u guys then
"Rob M" (11:10:39 PM): I just figured Gary was the bigger threat but Im down for whateva
Grkrapper2 (11:11:08 PM): im gonna see what kathy wants to do. dont really want to go against her and have her get mad and then switch and be on robb and garys side and bring like rudy along
"Rob M" (11:11:20 PM): true dat
Grkrapper2 (11:14:38 PM): kathy is in the middle between gary and rudy
Grkrapper2 (11:14:44 PM): which is good cause it aint one of us
"Rob M" (11:14:55 PM): true this works out well for us
Grkrapper2 (11:14:57 PM): we just need one more to lock up ths round
"Rob M" (11:15:04 PM): yup we'll be fine
"Rob M" (11:15:07 PM): brb
Grkrapper2 (11:15:10 PM): aight
"Rob M" (11:18:58 PM): back
Grkrapper2 (11:19:05 PM): aight cool
Grkrapper2 (11:19:18 PM): so kathy says she dosnt really want to make the choice and wants to go with whatever majority is going
"Rob M" (11:19:27 PM): yea thats what she told me
"Rob M" (11:24:37 PM): the thing is we may need Rudy's vote this round
"Rob M" (11:24:42 PM): cuz Kathy wont commit
"Rob M" (11:24:53 PM): we need a 4th
Grkrapper2 (11:25:29 PM): yeah that is true, and we could try and sway gary and robb to vote rudy since that would be the only way to save rudy so we would be safe either way.
"Rob M" (11:25:52 PM): yea unless the 4 of them team up and pick us off the next 3 rounds
"Rob M" (11:25:58 PM): thats the only thing that scares me
Grkrapper2 (11:26:46 PM): thats why we tell gary that he needs to vote rudy to save himself, i am a bit afraid of that too but kathy isnt really a backstabber \
"Rob M" (11:27:20 PM): ok good I just hope Kathy doesnt tell Gary we were considering voting for him
"Rob M" (11:27:35 PM): as long as she doesnt do that Gary should be willing to vote for Rudy
Grkrapper2 (11:28:15 PM): man i have a feeling gary is gonna be pissed when if he gets voted off lol
"Rob M" (11:28:39 PM): lol probably
"Rob M" (11:28:43 PM): he put alot of time into this game
Grkrapper2 (11:29:29 PM): yeah thats why i feel bad voting him off instead of rudy
Grkrapper2 (11:29:44 PM): but eh oh well he would have voted us off if we hadnt turned the tables
"Rob M" (11:29:48 PM): me too but we also have to what gets us to the end of the game
"Rob M" (11:29:59 PM): to do*
"Rob M" (11:30:15 PM): he probly wouldve voted us if Eliza stayed
Grkrapper2 (11:32:43 PM): dude man after amber was voted off, i tried going to gary to give us a life line but he wouldnt budge and said it was moslty tribe verse tribe and that he was going to stick with his original tribe so he had his chance pretty much
"Rob M" (11:32:58 PM): yea then wtf?
"Rob M" (11:33:07 PM): we might as well vote him out before he becomes immune
"Rob M" (11:33:14 PM): hes the biggest threat to win the game
Grkrapper2 (11:33:22 PM): yeah and thats exaclty why i went to rudy and kathy
"Rob M" (11:33:30 PM): I dont blame you
"Rob M" (11:34:43 PM): whatever u did worked lol
Grkrapper2 (11:34:52 PM): lol this is true
"Rob M" (11:34:56 PM): haha
Grkrapper2 (11:34:57 PM): and gary just imed me lol
"Rob M" (11:35:03 PM): oh what'd he say?
Grkrapper2 (11:35:11 PM): wait no he didnt, its an old IM
"Rob M" (11:35:18 PM): oh lol
Grkrapper2 (11:35:44 PM): man i really wanted to vote off stupid robb, he only talks to me when he wants to know who i am voting for freakin a
"Rob M" (11:35:53 PM): LOL thats annoying
"Rob M" (11:36:04 PM): Kathy wont tell me anything
"Rob M" (11:36:09 PM): just that she wants to go with the majority
"Rob M" (11:36:12 PM): its annoying
Grkrapper2 (11:36:27 PM): ugh, she said she is going to talk to rudy first
"Rob M" (11:36:34 PM): Esoshnick (12:32:49 AM): Id rather keep Rudy if its possible only cuz I believe Gary is the biggest threat out there to win the entire game
Esoshnick (12:33:02 AM): but I will go along with the majority
velva8490 (12:34:42 AM): i would rather go with the majority too
"Rob M" (11:36:54 PM): hopefully Rudy convinced her to vote Gary
"Rob M" (11:36:57 PM): convinces*
Grkrapper2 (11:37:35 PM): i am worried that rudy will vote tina for mentioning his name cause tina pmed kathy saying it shoudl be rudy
"Rob M" (11:37:43 PM): oh no
"Rob M" (11:37:52 PM): that would suck for us if tina goes
"Rob M" (11:37:56 PM): we'd be next
Grkrapper2 (11:38:08 PM): yeah that is true cause they woudl be a final 4
"Rob M" (11:38:14 PM): exactly
"Rob M" (11:38:46 PM): velva8490 (12:37:04 AM): yeah. me too. i don't want to stand out. so you think the majority is going to go with gary?
Esoshnick (12:37:14 AM): thats what it sounds like to me
"Rob M" (11:38:52 PM): hopefully she'll just vote Gary
"Rob M" (11:39:41 PM): Esoshnick (12:37:24 AM): he is the biggest threat in the game isnt he?
velva8490 (12:38:05 AM): well he's a threat in challenges & socially
Esoshnick (12:38:12 AM): yea hes a double threat
Esoshnick (12:38:20 AM): most people are only good at 1 of the 2
Grkrapper2 (11:41:07 PM): nice good use of pitching the threat card
"Rob M" (11:41:18 PM): LOL thanx bro
"Rob M" (11:41:26 PM): Im tryin my best to sell her on this
"Rob M" (11:41:43 PM): velva8490 (12:39:08 AM): yeah that's true.
Esoshnick (12:39:31 AM): if he makes the finals he just seems unbeatable
Esoshnick (12:39:42 AM): I dont see how anyone can say they outplayed him at any aspect of the game
Grkrapper2 (11:42:14 PM): oh and gary voted kathy last round fyi
"Rob M" (11:42:25 PM): oh tell her that then
"Rob M" (11:43:33 PM): Esoshnick (12:41:29 AM): and I think he voted u the round Eliza was voted out
Esoshnick (12:41:48 AM): cuz he wanted to be loyal to his original allies
Esoshnick (12:41:53 AM): so the jury probly loves him
velva8490 (12:41:56 AM): yeah i thought i got that vote from him
Esoshnick (12:42:09 AM): Im pretty sure it came from him cuz he said he couldnt vote for Eliza
Grkrapper2 (11:49:05 PM): but hey man im gonna head to bed, let me know what you can get from her
"Rob M" (11:49:15 PM): aight bro
"Rob M" (11:49:21 PM): have a good one
Grkrapper2 (11:50:22 PM): you too man, sedn me a pm on the board if u find out anything
Grkrapper2 (11:50:23 PM): lata
"Rob M" (11:50:32 PM): u got it
"Rob M" (11:50:34 PM): later
Grkrapper2 (11:50:42 PM): aight cool thankx lata
"Rob M" (9:45:01 PM): that TC sucked
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"Rob M" (12:17:49 AM): ugh
"Rob M" (12:17:53 AM): I voted Rudy
Grkrapper2 (12:17:57 AM): yeah thougth so
"Rob M" (12:17:58 AM): cuz I knew we didnt have the votes
Grkrapper2 (12:18:08 AM): why did freaking rudy and kathy screw us
"Rob M" (12:18:13 AM): Kathy Rudy Robb and Gary obviously have a final 4
"Rob M" (12:18:20 AM): that they didnt tell us about
"Rob M" (12:18:31 AM): we need to get at least 1 of them to flip somehow
"Rob M" (12:18:36 AM): or we are sitting ducks
"Rob M" (12:18:50 AM): promise them final 2 or do whatever it takes
Grkrapper2 (12:19:02 AM): man i promised them final 3 already him and kathy
"Rob M" (12:19:12 AM): with Gary or Rudy?
Grkrapper2 (12:19:22 AM): with rudy and kathy
Grkrapper2 (12:19:39 AM): either rudy kathy gary or robb, one of them aint making the final 3, but they will with us
"Rob M" (12:19:45 AM): exactly
Grkrapper2 (12:19:46 AM): we just have to figure out which one
"Rob M" (12:19:51 AM): we need to figure out who is their outsider
"Rob M" (12:19:55 AM): I think its Kathy
"Rob M" (12:19:59 AM): cuz Eliza targetted her
"Rob M" (12:20:02 AM): and Gary has voted her
"Rob M" (12:20:06 AM): in the past
"Rob M" (12:20:12 AM): but I dunno why she was so loyal to Gary
"Rob M" (12:20:17 AM): they must have a deal
Grkrapper2 (12:20:30 AM): somethin must have gotten her to change her mind and vote tina
"Rob M" (12:20:35 AM): yup
"Rob M" (12:20:40 AM): I dunno what changed
Grkrapper2 (12:20:45 AM): they did originally have a final 4 supposedly
"Rob M" (12:20:52 AM): this sux
"Rob M" (12:21:03 AM): Kathy was so wishy washy last night
"Rob M" (12:21:07 AM): saying she didnt wanna vote anyone
"Rob M" (12:21:10 AM): she likes everybody
"Rob M" (12:21:12 AM): blah blah blah
Grkrapper2 (12:21:21 AM): yeah it was almost like she knew she was voting tina the whole time
"Rob M" (12:21:27 AM): exactly
"Rob M" (12:21:36 AM): and I knew Gary was gonna vote one of us
Grkrapper2 (12:21:48 AM): yeah he had pmed me he was voting tina
"Rob M" (12:21:48 AM): then he PMed me today saying he was voting tina
"Rob M" (12:21:53 AM): so I knew he locked up the 4 votes
"Rob M" (12:21:59 AM): or he wouldnt risk it
Grkrapper2 (12:22:09 AM): i will have to talk to kathy and see what is up
Grkrapper2 (12:22:23 AM): one of them will break, cause all 4 of them cant make the final 3
"Rob M" (12:22:24 AM): we need to convince Kathy Gary or Robb to flip on Rudy I think
"Rob M" (12:22:31 AM): exactly
Grkrapper2 (12:22:38 AM): i almost want to say its robb that is on the outs but he dont talk to anyone
"Rob M" (12:22:49 AM): we have to convince them that the plan is for the other allies to take Rudy to the end cuz hes so easy to beat
"Rob M" (12:22:54 AM): and we can help them vote out Rudy
"Rob M" (12:23:10 AM): yea I think Robb's on the outs too but hes ignoring my IMs the last 2 days
"Rob M" (12:23:15 AM): so I have no way of getting to him
Grkrapper2 (12:24:02 AM): for some reason i think that they have this type of deal that is well we will go to the final 4 and gary and robb will vote together and rudy and kathy will vote together and then have the tiebreaker decide
Grkrapper2 (12:24:07 AM): that would be so lame if they did taht
Grkrapper2 (12:24:17 AM): why risk a tiebreaker when you have an automatic final 3
"Rob M" (12:24:33 AM): exactly
"Rob M" (12:24:42 AM): I am thinking thats their deal too
"Rob M" (12:25:05 AM): we need to convince Robb and Gary that Rudy must go
Grkrapper2 (12:25:10 AM): most likely i think they will target me next between you and I
"Rob M" (12:25:14 AM): or everyone will want him in the finals
Grkrapper2 (12:25:29 AM): maybe thats why they dont want to get rid of him
"Rob M" (12:25:29 AM): who knows what their plan is?
"Rob M" (12:25:41 AM): but it hurts Robb and Gary
"Rob M" (12:25:45 AM): if Kathy takes Rudy to the end
"Rob M" (12:25:49 AM): then they lose
Grkrapper2 (12:25:54 AM): maybe kathy should be the one to go cause she will be tought to beat
Grkrapper2 (12:26:02 AM): freakin a, kathy really screwed us on this one
"Rob M" (12:26:06 AM): yea she is the biggest threat other than Gary
"Rob M" (12:26:14 AM): yea I knew she was going to
"Rob M" (12:26:19 AM): the way she was talking
"Rob M" (12:26:23 AM): thats why I didnt vote Gary
Grkrapper2 (12:26:27 AM): its gonna be tough winning immunity cause robb gary and kathy are all good at those chalalgnes
"Rob M" (12:26:31 AM): I figured our only hope was a self vote from Rudy
"Rob M" (12:26:51 AM): yea immunity doesnt help us anyway
"Rob M" (12:26:56 AM): we need to outstrategize them
Grkrapper2 (12:26:59 AM): this is true
"Rob M" (12:27:02 AM): even if one of us wins IC the other goes
Grkrapper2 (12:27:15 AM): which is what sucks
"Rob M" (12:27:20 AM): very much so
"Rob M" (12:27:29 AM): Im hoping we can convince someone to go to the final 3 with us
"Rob M" (12:27:37 AM): and maybe we can each offer the person final 2 deals
"Rob M" (12:27:42 AM): and act like we arent close
Grkrapper2 (12:27:53 AM): i doubt it will be gary, it would have to be like kathy or rudy unfortunetly
"Rob M" (12:27:59 AM): yup
"Rob M" (12:28:07 AM): and Kathy is so noncommital
Grkrapper2 (12:28:10 AM): well you voting rudy may have helped us out
"Rob M" (12:28:15 AM): with gary
"Rob M" (12:28:17 AM): right?
Grkrapper2 (12:28:23 AM): cause voting differnt already kinda shows we arent as close
"Rob M" (12:28:28 AM): exactly
"Rob M" (12:28:44 AM): but it could also make Rudy mad at me
"Rob M" (12:28:53 AM): or it could make him think youd take him to the end
"Rob M" (12:28:55 AM): if we make final 3
Grkrapper2 (12:29:39 AM): maybe they voted out tina cause tina wanted rudy out and kathy got mad
Grkrapper2 (12:29:51 AM): cause of that pm she sent her
"Rob M" (12:29:52 AM): I dont get why Tina wanted Rudy out
"Rob M" (12:29:55 AM): it made no sense
Grkrapper2 (12:30:09 AM): cause he wasnt doing anything and wasnt being too active
"Rob M" (12:30:10 AM): we shouldve just planned to vote Gary from the getgo
"Rob M" (12:30:17 AM): yea but we needed to take out a threat
"Rob M" (12:30:21 AM): now were screwed
"Rob M" (12:30:40 AM): Rudy is active enough to vote when he needs to apparently
Grkrapper2 (12:31:14 AM): yeah how convienient
"Rob M" (12:31:22 AM): yup
Grkrapper2 (12:31:26 AM): kathy never even got back to me on what she was going to do
"Rob M" (12:31:32 AM): me neither
"Rob M" (12:31:35 AM): what a bitch
"Rob M" (12:31:42 AM): at least Gary told us
"Rob M" (12:31:46 AM): I think hes our best hope
"Rob M" (12:32:01 AM): maybe he is afraid of Kathy and Rudy
Grkrapper2 (12:32:09 AM): i dont know man, i think he has like deals with each person in that final 4
"Rob M" (12:32:30 AM): it seems that way but maybe we can convince him Kathy and Rudy will never vote eachother somehow
Grkrapper2 (12:34:09 AM): ugh its not looking good for us at all
Grkrapper2 (12:34:21 AM): i will have to talk to gary and see whats on his mind
"Rob M" (12:34:30 AM): hes online now
"Rob M" (12:34:34 AM): I just IMed him
Grkrapper2 (12:34:36 AM): yeah i just sent him an im
"Rob M" (12:34:41 AM): Im gonna try to work him over if possible
"Rob M" (12:36:02 AM): I doubt he'll help us
Grkrapper2 (12:36:28 AM): we may have to rely on kathy or rudy which sucks but ill have to see ifi see them online
"Rob M" (12:36:32 AM): he sounds like hes real proud of himself lol
"Rob M" (12:36:39 AM): yea we may have to
"Rob M" (12:36:48 AM): lemme know if either of them commit to voting Gary or Robb
"Rob M" (12:37:49 AM): I got a new plan
Grkrapper2 (12:37:54 AM): what u got man
"Rob M" (12:38:01 AM): Im telling Gary that u guys lied to me about the vote
"Rob M" (12:38:05 AM): so he thinks we arent close
Grkrapper2 (12:38:17 AM): lol thats what i told him in a way
"Rob M" (12:38:21 AM): Im telling him I was told to vote Rudy and now Im screwed
"Rob M" (12:38:25 AM): LOL I hope it works
"Rob M" (12:38:33 AM): he asked me that so he expected it I guess
Grkrapper2 (12:38:36 AM): i told him that i heard that you tina rudy and kathy were all voting gary so i did as well
"Rob M" (12:38:53 AM): RnnrBrian (1:37:23 AM): Did the others all tell you that Rudy was going? 'cause Keith had told me via PM that I was the one going.
Esoshnick (1:37:37 AM): I was told it was supposed to be Rudy
Esoshnick (1:37:42 AM): I cant believe everyone fooled me
Grkrapper2 (12:40:40 AM): Gary" (12:39:15 AM): That sucks, I thought they would at least tell you. I was nervous looking at the results because, ya know, I was being told two different things so I thought there would be a strong chance that I was going.
Grkrapper2 (12:40:19 AM): thats what i thought was going on, i dont know who was telling rob that rudy was the vote cause i kept hearing it was you which is why i told you, i think kathy was telling us different things'
"Rob M" (12:41:08 AM): LMAO good thinking
"Rob M" (12:41:12 AM): maybe he'd vote Kathy
Grkrapper2 (12:42:17 AM): Grkrapper2 (12:42:06 AM): and who the heck knows what rudy is doing, kathy said that rudy was going to vote you but would get back to me on that but never did. rudy hasnt done any of the last few challanges and i havent talked to him since last week lol i think kathy is the only one that talks to him
Grkrapper2 (12:42:29 AM): im gonna try pushing it to kathy or even rudy
"Rob M" (12:42:35 AM): good idea
Grkrapper2 (12:42:44 AM): i think we go for rudy, he does have that chance of self voting
Grkrapper2 (12:42:54 AM): or not putting a confessional up
"Rob M" (12:43:02 AM): Im telling him that hes the only one in the game who told me who he was voting for so I wanna take him to the finals if I can
"Rob M" (12:43:16 AM): yea Rudy is the safest bet
Grkrapper2 (12:43:47 AM): if we can force it a tie on a technicallity that would be great lol
"Rob M" (12:43:54 AM): it would! LOL
Grkrapper2 (12:48:42 AM): have u gotten any pms from rudy recently
"Rob M" (12:49:20 AM): none have u?
Grkrapper2 (12:49:52 AM): there lies the problem, i have not received anything but: Gary" (12:44:45 AM): I've communicated with him through PMs...and through his texts on phones, I guess.
Grkrapper2 (12:49:58 AM): apparently he has with gary
"Rob M" (12:50:18 AM): yes I knew that was coming once Gary said he voted Tina
"Rob M" (12:50:25 AM): he has obviously communicated with Rudy
"Rob M" (12:50:29 AM): or he wouldnt have done that
Grkrapper2 (12:50:35 AM): this is true
"Rob M" (12:50:44 AM): so thats a huge problem
"Rob M" (12:50:49 AM): maybe we need to target Kathy?
Grkrapper2 (12:51:11 AM): not if i tell gary that rudy said he was in a final 4 with kathy and robb
Grkrapper2 (12:51:15 AM): i have a plan hold up
"Rob M" (12:51:18 AM): oh good point
"Rob M" (12:51:20 AM): 'k
Grkrapper2 (12:53:17 AM): this is from my confessionals that i had a convo from rudy
Grkrapper2 (12:53:20 AM): Rudy" (1:44:31 PM): You see, I thought I had a pretty tightalliance wtih Robb, Kathy and Gary, not so sure now
"Rob M" (12:53:31 AM): oh good
"Rob M" (12:53:35 AM): what did Gary say?
Grkrapper2 (12:53:48 AM): i havent showed him yet im doing that now
"Rob M" (12:53:55 AM): nice
"Rob M" (12:56:30 AM): Esoshnick (1:53:01 AM): well if theres anyway my vote can help u get to the finals just lemme know cuz Im pretty much flying solo at this point
Esoshnick (1:54:42 AM): at this point Im just gonna keep voting for whoever doesnt talk to me unless I hear otherwise
RnnrBrian (1:55:43 AM): gracias. Really though, I WILL let you know what will be going down at each TC, at least on who I'm planning on voting. I won't be able to speak for the others, but I'll always send you a PM. Seriously, i will.
Esoshnick (1:56:10 AM): thanx I really appreciate it Im glad someone will keep me in the loop around here
"Rob M" (12:57:14 AM): hopefully he doesnt see us as a pair and we can vote out Kathy or Rudy somehow
Grkrapper2 (12:58:20 AM): Gary" (12:57:52 AM): hmm. Well, honestly, I do have an alliance with them, and I'm planning on sticking with them.
"Gary" (12:58:06 AM): I'm sorry, but I really feel like it's the best way I can get to the finals.
"Rob M" (12:58:34 AM): I figured as much
"Rob M" (12:58:38 AM): hes too loyal
"Rob M" (12:58:41 AM): we need someone else
"Rob M" (12:58:58 AM): ask him why he voted for Kathy then?
"Rob M" (12:59:02 AM): if hes so loyal to her
Grkrapper2 (12:59:23 AM): prolly just to throw a vote away, cause kathy knew about it and didnt phase her at all
Grkrapper2 (1:00:05 AM): Grkrapper2 (12:58:52 AM): ahh but 4 people cant make the final 2, someones is going to get screwed
Grkrapper2 (1:00:08 AM): thats what i told him
Grkrapper2 (1:00:26 AM): freakin rudy was playing us the whole time
"Rob M" (1:00:28 AM): true dat
"Rob M" (1:00:42 AM): but I still think Gary and Robb want Kathy gone
"Rob M" (1:00:48 AM): cuz of what Eliza did after she lost
"Rob M" (1:00:56 AM): she went out of her way to setup Kathy
"Rob M" (1:01:03 AM): and tell me Kathy told her I was voting her
"Rob M" (1:01:07 AM): eventhough it was really Gary
"Rob M" (1:01:21 AM): who told Eliza I was voting her
"Rob M" (1:01:37 AM): and remind Gary how Kathy backstabbed Eliza
"Rob M" (1:01:40 AM): and shed do it to him
"Rob M" (1:01:46 AM): in a heartbeat
"Rob M" (1:01:57 AM): tell him Kathy wont risk a tie in the final 4
Grkrapper2 (1:02:24 AM): that would be stupid is someone wanted a tie in the final 4
"Rob M" (1:02:31 AM): yea that is so lame
"Rob M" (1:02:35 AM): nobody ever keeps those
"Rob M" (1:02:38 AM): tell him that
Grkrapper2 (1:03:01 AM): "Gary" (1:02:31 AM): lol, no crap! I just have to hope it isn't me. But really, for now I think I'm committed to sticking with them. And that's probably a more honest answer than you'll get from the other 3, ya know?
Grkrapper2 (1:03:17 AM): gary is too loyal, we need to work on kathy or rudy unfortunetly
"Rob M" (1:03:41 AM): yea he pisses me off lol
"Rob M" (1:03:48 AM): Kathy and Rudy are our only hope
"Rob M" (1:03:49 AM): this sux
"Rob M" (1:04:01 AM): unless we can get to Robb somehow
Grkrapper2 (1:04:08 AM): Grkrapper2 (1:03:53 AM): i just hope your right man, i would hate to be voted off 6th or 5th and then you get screwed in the final 4 or 3
Grkrapper2 (1:04:14 AM): thats what i told gary
"Rob M" (1:05:18 AM): yea youve done all u can do with him
"Rob M" (1:05:25 AM): we need to talk to Robb Rudy and Kathy
"Rob M" (1:05:32 AM): and find a chink in the armor
Grkrapper2 (1:05:44 AM): they all cant feel safe cause if they do, someoens i getting played like a fiddle
"Rob M" (1:06:10 AM): I dont think Robb or Rudy feel as safe
"Rob M" (1:06:18 AM): I think Gary and Kathy feel very safe right now
Grkrapper2 (1:06:33 AM): yeah cause gary is controlling robb and kathy is controlling rudy
"Rob M" (1:06:39 AM): exatly LOL
"Rob M" (1:06:50 AM): and they were both so unwilling to budge at all
"Rob M" (1:07:22 AM): kathy never even considered voting Rudy or Gary
"Rob M" (1:07:33 AM): she must feel very safe with them
Grkrapper2 (1:07:55 AM): god i really hope we dont have to rely on robb lol he dont talk to anyone
"Rob M" (1:08:04 AM): I truly think hes our only hope
"Rob M" (1:08:08 AM): he told me he was on the outs
"Rob M" (1:08:15 AM): last round
"Rob M" (1:08:34 AM): the problem is he hasnt beena round to talk to at all
Grkrapper2 (1:08:48 AM): man well we have at least 3 days to work it cause the challanges is 48 hours and starts tomorrow
"Rob M" (1:09:13 AM): true lets hope he shows up over the next 3 days lol
Grkrapper2 (1:09:40 AM): if all 4 of them stick together and vote each of us out, i am goign to give the biggest i told you so and tool to the ones that get screwed over
"Rob M" (1:09:55 AM): LOL
Grkrapper2 (1:10:06 AM): i will laugh in their face
"Rob M" (1:10:08 AM): I dont blame ya
Grkrapper2 (1:10:24 AM): i be like you dumb sob. didnt we just tell u that shit was going to happen
"Rob M" (1:10:43 AM): hahaha
"Rob M" (1:10:52 AM): Im hoping it doesnt come to that tho
"Rob M" (1:10:56 AM): and we convince Robb or Rudy
Grkrapper2 (1:10:59 AM): yeah that is true
"Rob M" (1:11:08 AM): but it doesnt look good right now
Grkrapper2 (1:11:35 AM): i think if we lay low the next day or two they will think we gave up
Grkrapper2 (1:11:43 AM): like during xmas eve and xmas
"Rob M" (1:11:45 AM): probably
Grkrapper2 (1:11:53 AM): and then come friday we bring it out
"Rob M" (1:11:57 AM): Im hoping Rudy forgets to vote
Grkrapper2 (1:12:08 AM): they will prolly gun for me next since i voted gary so im ready to give it my all
"Rob M" (1:12:16 AM): yea that's a good idea unless we see Robb or Rudy on sooner
"Rob M" (1:12:20 AM): we need to talk to those 2
"Rob M" (1:12:32 AM): oh man I hope they dont vote u next
"Rob M" (1:12:34 AM): that will blow
Grkrapper2 (1:12:44 AM): althought rudy forgetting to vote wont do us too good cause we would still be screwed at final 5
Grkrapper2 (1:13:03 AM): we need a solid ally more then the technicallity
"Rob M" (1:14:29 AM): youre right about that
"Rob M" (1:14:33 AM): we need to bring Robb in
"Rob M" (1:14:40 AM): he told me he felt he was next to go
Grkrapper2 (1:14:56 AM): really? when was this?
Grkrapper2 (1:15:09 AM): we could use that everyone thinks he is a challange threat to our advantage
"Rob M" (1:15:24 AM): it was a few days ago
"Rob M" (1:15:36 AM): when we had to give the points out
"Rob M" (1:15:41 AM): last round
Grkrapper2 (1:15:56 AM): alright we will see what we can do, and im gonna try and get an explanation out of rudy and kathy
"Rob M" (1:16:30 AM): it was after IC #11
"Rob M" (1:16:38 AM): Robb told me he thought he would be next to go
"Rob M" (1:16:41 AM): and he needed immunity
Grkrapper2 (1:16:44 AM): well he is our best bet so far then
"Rob M" (1:16:51 AM): I think so at this point
"Rob M" (1:16:55 AM): we just gotta find him online
Grkrapper2 (1:17:20 AM): he will show up, he always does the challanges
"Rob M" (1:17:27 AM): yup
Grkrapper2 (1:17:48 AM): but hey man im gonna head off to bed so ill catch ya later
"Rob M" (1:18:18 AM): alright have a goodnight bro
Grkrapper2 (1:18:25 AM): you too man
Grkrapper2 (1:18:26 AM): lata
wtf mate, freakin kathy and rudy. Those tool bags. Ugh i hate to say that robb may hold mine and robs fate but nonetheless, tina, you will be avenged!!!!